I HATE TO SAY IT

Last post 07-09-2008 3:57 PM by irishgreek. 19 replies.
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  • 07-04-2008 10:38 AM

    I HATE TO SAY IT

    One observation on the 4th of July. Obama's campaign is light years ahead of any recent democratic candidate running for President. He has been constantly moving to the center on a host of issues ,which he has to do to win. This will frustrate the solid left wing fringe that he has in his pocket, but where are they going to go. The answer is NOWHERE. I know it is still early and at this point the polls mean nothing. A good example is Dukakis being ahead about this time in his election cycle big, and getting his brains beat out. Of course the advantage the Republicans had with him is that he ran an awful campaign, one of the worst in recent memory. Obama is too smart for this, For McCain to win, he has to define himself and define Obama's voting record. The average American voter will not vote for Obama if this is exposed. John will not win on the I was a POW in Vietnam for five years campaign. He has to define himself in stark terms that show the great differences between him and Obama. The war on terror has taken a backside to the struggling economy and high oil prices. If he can't take this issue by the horns, he will lose this election. This is at least the way it stands today as I see it. His campaign seems to be in disarray. He also seems to tiptoe around race , which he also cannot do. He right now is letting Obama define him. If he doesn't have someone within his campaign who can develop a winning strategy, there is still time to find someone that can. One name to consider, Karl Rove. The only downside to do this is his association with Bush. McCain is not going to completely escape this , no matter what he does. He has to have a better organized campaign, and Karl Rove would do that in the first hour on the job. Least of all, you could bring him in as an advisor, if you are too afraid of the negative press backlash.  

  • 07-04-2008 11:37 AM In reply to

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     It seems like McCain is taking a breather and it could cost him in the end. His advisors need to stay on the ball with a strategy plan. Karl Rove is a good idea.......

  • 07-04-2008 12:59 PM In reply to

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     Good observations Irish. Unfortunately all to true IMO. JM has definable positive issues that should easily separate himself from BO. Experience, patriotism, military service, all the congressional committees he has been on. Things BO is lacking in. But as you say, the JM advisors aren't seeing it that way. At least not yet anyway.

  • 07-04-2008 1:35 PM In reply to

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    surveybob:
     Good observations Irish. Unfortunately all to true IMO. JM has definable positive issues that should easily separate himself from BO. Experience, patriotism, military service, all the congressional committees he has been on. Thins BO is lacking in. But as you say, the JM advisors aren't seeing it that way. At least not yet anyway.

    That is the problem I see with Barack Obama is that he has no experience, yet, John McCain has experience but a very bad temper is what makes me shy away from him. McCain needs to campaign better to beat Barack Obama, otherwise, for you Republicans, in addition to a loss of both houses of Congress, losing the White House would be very painful.

    This is from an objective, independent point of view.

  • 07-05-2008 12:57 AM In reply to

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    IMO bob, rose and irish it seems like McCain has lost interest just a little. i saw him at a press conference and he looked half dead.  i think he needs to announce his V.P. soon and get some new blood flowing

  • 07-05-2008 10:44 AM In reply to

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    BigNeerav:

    surveybob:
     Good observations Irish. Unfortunately all to true IMO. JM has definable positive issues that should easily separate himself from BO. Experience, patriotism, military service, all the congressional committees he has been on. Thins BO is lacking in. But as you say, the JM advisors aren't seeing it that way. At least not yet anyway.

    That is the problem I see with Barack Obama is that he has no experience, yet, John McCain has experience but a very bad temper is what makes me shy away from him. McCain needs to campaign better to beat Barack Obama, otherwise, for you Republicans, in addition to a loss of both houses of Congress, losing the White House would be very painful.

    This is from an objective, independent point of view.

    I think that is very much within the realm of possibility. The best chance the Republicans have is the White House. There is no doubt at least for two years they will be the minority party in the Senate and House. You can take that to the bank. It's a slam dunk.  
  • 07-05-2008 10:48 AM In reply to

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     petergun, I guess I've noticed the same thing. Lately all I've seen is responses from him to BO's statements. I hope they know what they are doing.........with so much time left and all. He at least needs to go out and lead his position, not just respond to BO.

  • 07-05-2008 10:54 AM In reply to

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    petergun1962:

    IMO bob, rose and irish it seems like McCain has lost interest just a little. i saw him at a press conference and he looked half dead.  i think he needs to announce his V.P. soon and get some new blood flowing

    I would like to see Romney but it would be a double edged sword. McCain would gain instant credibility with the economy because of Romney's strong business background, but would probably lose some swing voters who think Romney is too conservative. How about this longshot, Michael Steele , black conservative who lost in his run for Governor of Maryland. Another good choice would be Chris Cox of California. I heard his name mentioned some months ago but not recently. How about John Bolton, to shake things up. The best U.S. ambassador to the U.N. we've ever had who is despised by the left wing fringe of the Democratic Party. That gives him instant credibility with me, and love his style. He calls a spade a spade so to speak. This last comment is not meant to be taken racially for any of you on the right or left that want to jump on it.  
  • 07-05-2008 11:09 AM In reply to

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    petergun1962:
    IMO bob, rose and irish it seems like McCain has lost interest just a little. i saw him at a press conference and he looked half dead.  i think he needs to announce his V.P. soon and get some new blood flowing


    That is very true.......McCain seriously needs to step it up, otherwise,his campaign is as dead as a horse in deep water.......more needs to be done to reinvigorate the McCain camp other than the recent shake up that happened this past week.......in fact, I woul say people with new ideas need to be added to the McCain camp if they are to figure out a way to beat Obama and do well not just in the polls, but overall in the election campaign, especially this coming November. Right now, Obama is doing very well in the polls, and that is not good news for November for McCain, especially at the rate his campaign is going currently. 

  • 07-05-2008 11:48 AM In reply to

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    irishgreek:
     I would like to see Romney but it would be a double edged sword. McCain would gain instant credibility with the economy because of Romney's strong business background, but would probably lose some swing voters who think Romney is too conservative. How about this longshot, Michael Steele, black conservative who lost in his run for Governor of Maryland. Another good choice would be Chris Cox of California. I heard his name mentioned some months ago but not recently. How about John Bolton, to shake things up. The best U.S. ambassador to the U.N. we've ever had who is despised by the left wing fringe of the Democratic Party. That gives him instant credibility with me, and love his style. He calls a spade a spade so to speak. This last comment is not meant to be taken racially for any of you on the right or left that want to jump on it.  

    No offense taken, my good friend. I think of those, for the Republicans, I like Chris Cox......Charlie Crist of Flordia just got married to an entreprenuer, but I am not sure, strategy-wise, if he would be a good match........he might be good for the conservative voters especially on abortion and gat rights........I am not sure where Chris Cox stands for the Republican/conservative views. Also, what about Bobby Jindal? He might be a very good match for the Republicans, especially on the issues that I mentioned. John Bolton many not be a good choice, except for the hard core base of conservatives who are supporting military action in the Middle East and against what Bush calls the "axis of evil".

    I like Chris Cox and Bobby Jindal as good choices, at least, for the Republican side. Romney will be tricky, and Huckabee may be too far to the right to get a good support from the conservative voters.

  • 07-06-2008 10:39 PM In reply to

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    I think you make some very good points. I like Huckabee as a human being, I don't want him on the ticket.

  • 07-07-2008 4:24 PM In reply to

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    I Completely agree with you on the subject that John has overused the "I was a POW" thing It may raise popularity to try a different approach that had something  to do with auctual , I  don't know "POLOTICS"
  • 07-08-2008 8:31 AM In reply to

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    Maybe there is one thing we can agree on and that is that there is a long time before the election. The Dem's got us all a little overheated with their dog fight. But there is some time before the mud is gonna hit the fan.

  • 07-08-2008 4:09 PM In reply to

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    I'm ready for some mud.

  • 07-08-2008 5:04 PM In reply to

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    Just noticed this today, good observations Irishgreek. Actually as republicans go I liked McCain a lot as a Republican Senator. And,though he did do, a very short but fast, jog to the right early in the primaries, going as far as kissing John Hagee's ring, (so to speak) he's been quietly jogging back to the John McCain (maverick) some of us progressives like. My problem with McCain is that aside from a short sighted foreign policy and a status quo domestic policy. I would not be comfortable with this man being anywhere's near something called a football. Especially if it looks like a briefcase...LOL

    By the way I love your last thought. About  "hiring Karl Rove as an adviser". I think I just heard Obama's lead over McCain shoot up a couple of more points.

    Carpe diem.!!

     

    irishgreek:

    One observation on the 4th of July. Obama's campaign is light years ahead of any recent democratic candidate running for President. He has been constantly moving to the center on a host of issues ,which he has to do to win. This will frustrate the solid left wing fringe that he has in his pocket, but where are they going to go. The answer is NOWHERE. I know it is still early and at this point the polls mean nothing. A good example is Dukakis being ahead about this time in his election cycle big, and getting his brains beat out. Of course the advantage the Republicans had with him is that he ran an awful campaign, one of the worst in recent memory. Obama is too smart for this, For McCain to win, he has to define himself and define Obama's voting record. The average American voter will not vote for Obama if this is exposed. John will not win on the I was a POW in Vietnam for five years campaign. He has to define himself in stark terms that show the great differences between him and Obama. The war on terror has taken a backside to the struggling economy and high oil prices. If he can't take this issue by the horns, he will lose this election. This is at least the way it stands today as I see it. His campaign seems to be in disarray. He also seems to tiptoe around race , which he also cannot do. He right now is letting Obama define him. If he doesn't have someone within his campaign who can develop a winning strategy, there is still time to find someone that can. One name to consider, Karl Rove. The only downside to do this is his association with Bush. McCain is not going to completely escape this , no matter what he does. He has to have a better organized campaign, and Karl Rove would do that in the first hour on the job. Least of all, you could bring him in as an advisor, if you are too afraid of the negative press backlash.  

     

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