Civil Liberties

Last post 07-06-2008 11:13 AM by surveybob. 21 replies.
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  • 06-28-2008 7:54 PM

    Civil Liberties

    The Supreme Court made a landmark ruling about civil liberties -- and you should know what it means for this election.

    In a five-to-four decision, the Court determined that suspects being held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base have the right to appeal their detention in federal court.

    This is a major victory for everyone who cares about civil liberties, human rights, and America's standing in the world.

    Barack Obama praised this ruling -- demonstrating his respect for our civil liberties and showing his commitment to keeping us safe while restoring the rights that have been stripped away by George W. Bush.

    Carpe Diem.!!.

  • 06-28-2008 9:44 PM In reply to

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     Hmmm, I would like to read more about this one.

  • 06-29-2008 10:30 PM In reply to

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    Thanks for the info.

  • 06-30-2008 12:03 AM In reply to

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    Seti03 says..........."

    The Supreme Court made a landmark ruling about civil liberties -- and you should know what it means for this election.

    In a five-to-four decision, the Court determined that suspects being held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base have the right to appeal their detention in federal court.

    This is a major victory for everyone who cares about civil liberties, human rights, and America's standing in the world.

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    I was wondering what that major victory part was about???

  • 06-30-2008 2:27 PM In reply to

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    what we need is more sheriffs like Joe Arpaio. he has the tent city jail in Arizona. the inmates get bologna sandwiches 2 to 3 times a day. wear pink underwear and live in tents in 110 degrees temperature. of course he has his critics notably the aclu and amnesty international. when they complain about the heat he tells his critics it the same weather that our troops in Iraq have. if you don't like the treatment you get ,don't commit crimes. 3 cheers for sheriff Arpaio.

  • 06-30-2008 2:41 PM In reply to

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    petergun1962:
    if you don't like the treatment you get ,don't commit crimes.

    I agree with this sentiment.

    But what do you tell those who haven't even been charged with a crime? 

    The point is not how we treat known terrorists, but how we treat anyone who might possibly have some connection with terrorism that has yet to be sorted out. These people are being held in the same conditions, and treated the same as the ones who have actually been charged with crimes.

    The biggest problem is being allowed to hold people indefinitely without charging them for reasons that it's ok to keep secret from the public. Under this system, it would be no problem whatsoever to scoop up you or me, call us terrorists without proof, and slap us in a non-US prison until our teeth rot out of our heads.

    I guess we should say, "If you don't like the treatment you get, don't even have someone think you may have commited a crime.

  • 06-30-2008 3:15 PM In reply to

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    Key word here Seti3 is "our" civil liberties. The "our" denotes the civil liberties that the Constitution gives us, US citizens, not foreigners. Now if the government has taken US citizens and placed them a Gitgo, then I'd say I'm all for habeus corpus and them having the right to face their accuser in a US court of law before their peers. But foreigners have no such civil rights. That is unless you favor a one world government. Our rights are allowed by the government we live under, nothing else. If they are not citizens of our country, they have no constitutional rights.

    Seti03:

    The Supreme Court made a landmark ruling about civil liberties -- and you should know what it means for this election.

    In a five-to-four decision, the Court determined that suspects being held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base have the right to appeal their detention in federal court.

    This is a major victory for everyone who cares about civil liberties, human rights, and America's standing in the world.

    Barack Obama praised this ruling -- demonstrating his respect for our civil liberties and showing his commitment to keeping us safe while restoring the rights that have been stripped away by George W. Bush.

    Carpe Diem.!!.

  • 07-01-2008 11:54 AM In reply to

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    petergun1962:

    what we need is more sheriffs like Joe Arpaio. he has the tent city jail in Arizona. the inmates get bologna sandwiches 2 to 3 times a day. wear pink underwear and live in tents in 110 degrees temperature. of course he has his critics notably the aclu and amnesty international. when they complain about the heat he tells his critics it the same weather that our troops in Iraq have. if you don't like the treatment you get ,don't commit crimes. 3 cheers for sheriff Arpaio.

     

    Yup and I bet 90% + of those guys there wont commit another crime as long as they live, if or when they get out!!

  • 07-01-2008 12:16 PM In reply to

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    i love that man, i agree they should treat every criminal like he does, it is great, who cares weather they have ac or cable tv, they are criminal, HELLO !!!!! i think he should run every jail, or just send all the criminals to him in arizona.

    petergun1962:

    what we need is more sheriffs like Joe Arpaio. he has the tent city jail in Arizona. the inmates get bologna sandwiches 2 to 3 times a day. wear pink underwear and live in tents in 110 degrees temperature. of course he has his critics notably the aclu and amnesty international. when they complain about the heat he tells his critics it the same weather that our troops in Iraq have. if you don't like the treatment you get ,don't commit crimes. 3 cheers for sheriff Arpaio.

     
  • 07-01-2008 12:29 PM In reply to

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    Bush sure did stick it to US!

  • 07-01-2008 4:24 PM In reply to

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    Joe Arpaio is a presidential candidate I could get behind.

  • 07-01-2008 8:30 PM In reply to

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    on some issues i bet i could too, we should write him in

    surveybob:

    Joe Arpaio is a presidential candidate I could get behind.

     
  • 07-02-2008 6:32 PM In reply to

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    LOL...Skysaw, right on point.

     

    skysaw:

    petergun1962:
    if you don't like the treatment you get ,don't commit crimes.

    I agree with this sentiment.

    But what do you tell those who haven't even been charged with a crime? 

    The point is not how we treat known terrorists, but how we treat anyone who might possibly have some connection with terrorism that has yet to be sorted out. These people are being held in the same conditions, and treated the same as the ones who have actually been charged with crimes.

    The biggest problem is being allowed to hold people indefinitely without charging them for reasons that it's ok to keep secret from the public. Under this system, it would be no problem whatsoever to scoop up you or me, call us terrorists without proof, and slap us in a non-US prison until our teeth rot out of our heads.

    I guess we should say, "If you don't like the treatment you get, don't even have someone think you may have commited a crime.

     

  • 07-02-2008 9:35 PM In reply to

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    just to nit pick there are good law abiding people, everyday joes, who's teeth are rotting out of their head because they can't afford health care, but prisoners get it for free, yeah thats fair 

  • 07-02-2008 11:36 PM In reply to

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    Yeah, I don't think it's right for the prisoners to get everything they get.  Many people purposely commit crimes just to stay out of poverty by going to prison.

     

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