We Are All Hindus Now

Last post 11-18-2009 7:54 PM by Seti03. 9 replies.
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  • 11-15-2009 6:25 AM

    We Are All Hindus Now

    America is not a Christian nation. We are, it is true, a nation founded by Christians, and according to a 2008 survey, 76 percent of us continue to identify as Christian (still, that's the lowest percentage in American history). Of course, we are not a Hindu—or Muslim, or Jewish, or Wiccan—nation, either. A million-plus Hindus live in the United States, a fraction of the billion who live on Earth. But recent poll data show that conceptually, at least, we are slowly becoming more like Hindus and less like traditional Christians in the ways we think about God, our selves, each other, and eternity

    The Rig Veda, the most ancient Hindu scripture, says this: "Truth is One, but the sages speak of it by many names." A Hindu believes there are many paths to God. Jesus is one way, the Qur'an is another, yoga practice is a third. None is better than any other; all are equal. The most traditional, conservative Christians have not been taught to think like this. They learn in Sunday school that their religion is true, and others are false. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me."

    Americans are no longer buying it. According to a 2008 Pew Forum survey, 65 percent of us believe that "many religions can lead to eternal life"—including 37 percent of white evangelicals, the group most likely to believe that salvation is theirs alone. Also, the number of people who seek spiritual truth outside church is growing. Thirty percent of Americans call themselves "spiritual, not religious," according to a 2009 NEWSWEEK Poll, up from 24 percent in 2005. Stephen Prothero, religion professor at Boston University, has long framed the American propensity for "the divine-deli-cafeteria religion" as "very much in the spirit of Hinduism. You're not picking and choosing from different religions, because they're all the same," he says. "It isn't about orthodoxy. It's about whatever works. If going to yoga works, great—and if going to Catholic mass works, great. And if going to Catholic mass plus the yoga plus the Buddhist retreat works, that's great, too."

    Then there's the question of what happens when you die. Christians traditionally believe that bodies and souls are sacred, that together they comprise the "self," and that at the end of time they will be reunited in the Resurrection. You need both, in other words, and you need them forever. Hindus believe no such thing. At death, the body burns on a pyre, while the spirit—where identity resides—escapes. In reincarnation, central to Hinduism, selves come back to earth again and again in different bodies. So here is another way in which Americans are becoming more Hindu: 24 percent of Americans say they believe in reincarnation, according to a 2008 Harris poll. So agnostic are we about the ultimate fates of our bodies that we're burning them—like Hindus—after death. More than a third of Americans now choose cremation, according to the Cremation Association of North America, up from 6 percent in 1975. "I do think the more spiritual role of religion tends to deemphasize some of the more starkly literal interpretations of the Resurrection," agrees Diana Eck, professor of comparative religion at Harvard. So let us all say "om."

    By Lisa Miller | NEWSWEEK

  • 11-15-2009 7:47 AM In reply to

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    Seti, this is a lot to think about!  I consider myself to be a Christian and I consider the good old U.S.A. to be mostly Christian so what is a person to think?  After reading this article I'm just not sure but I do know that our country and the founding fathers believed in freedom of religion.  I say to each his own but I follow the  Christian faith the best that I can anyway.   This article sure makes you think about a lot of different ways to view religion and faith.

  • 11-16-2009 12:23 AM In reply to

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     I have always felt that religion is a work of faith, and that too many people use religion for their own good, and to justify their actions, for better or for worse -- like David Koresh for example

  • 11-16-2009 7:37 AM In reply to

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    podstock:

     I have always felt that religion is a work of faith, and that too many people use religion for their own good, and to justify their actions, for better or for worse -- like David Koresh for example

    Good Point Podstock, you are so right and it is so true that people do use their religion to justify their actions and that is so sad and can be dangerous too.

  • 11-16-2009 4:41 PM In reply to

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    "Christians traditionally believe that bodies and souls are sacred, that together they comprise the "self," and that at the end of time they will be reunited in the Resurrection. You need both, in other words, and you need them forever. " I would like a little more detail about this comments origin, I do not believe that the body and soul combined is true.
  • 11-18-2009 12:15 PM In reply to

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    Maybe some of us have lost faith in faith and that has contributed to the percentage declines that some here are talking about. Without getting into a very detailed dissertation on the evolution of my beliefs, I will just say that I am not a Christian. I believe it was Podstock who said that a lot of people hide behind their religion. I hope we can have a good discussion without name calling because that has kept myself and others from commenting on subjects discussed or even checking back with the forums for awhile. The terrible action of the person in Ft. Hood wasn't as much terrorism as it was religious extremism. The only reason most are so called "Christian" in this country is because their parents and their parents were. Dependant mostly on geographical location is what your belief system dictates.

    As for the last paragraph,  I and my wife personally believe in cremation and will be cremated after death. And then there is the subject of euthanasia. Any sick animal has the advantage of being put down, why don't I if I have been diagnosed with a terminal painful condition? Really, would a loving father want me to linger and suffer immeasurably before I die? I have four children and would not want to see any of them suffer, so why would my God? But then again everyone is entitled to his/her beliefs, and that is what I am interested in, why they believe what they believe. Well, I could go on and on with my opinions, what about yours?

  • 11-18-2009 1:09 PM In reply to

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    Sagamore:

    Maybe some of us have lost faith in faith and that has contributed to the percentage declines that some here are talking about. Without getting into a very detailed dissertation on the evolution of my beliefs, I will just say that I am not a Christian. I believe it was Podstock who said that a lot of people hide behind their religion. I hope we can have a good discussion without name calling because that has kept myself and others from commenting on subjects discussed or even checking back with the forums for awhile. The terrible action of the person in Ft. Hood wasn't as much terrorism as it was religious extremism. The only reason most are so called "Christian" in this country is because their parents and their parents were. Dependant mostly on geographical location is what your belief system dictates.

    As for the last paragraph,  I and my wife personally believe in cremation and will be cremated after death. And then there is the subject of euthanasia. Any sick animal has the advantage of being put down, why don't I if I have been diagnosed with a terminal painful condition? Really, would a loving father want me to linger and suffer immeasurably before I die? I have four children and would not want to see any of them suffer, so why would my God? But then again everyone is entitled to his/her beliefs, and that is what I am interested in, why they believe what they believe. Well, I could go on and on with my opinions, what about yours?

    Sagamore, don't worry I never call names and I love a good discussion.
  • 11-18-2009 2:00 PM In reply to

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    I completely agree with you Sagamore. And as far as euthanasia goes, we are kinder to our domesticated animal companions than we are to ourselves. On cremation, such a waste of good real estate, which eventually will run out also in time like everything else if we do not mend our ways.. Of course its just not a religion thing, along with the churches, you have the NFDA, (national funeral association), the morticians association, the Lumber companies and casket makers all in opposition to any move or government promotion of cremation, for reasons other than just faith.

    However the cremation urn makers, not to mention the trees, will feel better. How's this for a promo. "Choose a burn and receive a free cremation urn, shipping and handling charges apply!"  O.k, nevermind.

     

    Sagamore:

    Maybe some of us have lost faith in faith and that has contributed to the percentage declines that some here are talking about. Without getting into a very detailed dissertation on the evolution of my beliefs, I will just say that I am not a Christian. I believe it was Podstock who said that a lot of people hide behind their religion. I hope we can have a good discussion without name calling because that has kept myself and others from commenting on subjects discussed or even checking back with the forums for awhile. The terrible action of the person in Ft. Hood wasn't as much terrorism as it was religious extremism. The only reason most are so called "Christian" in this country is because their parents and their parents were. Dependant mostly on geographical location is what your belief system dictates.

    As for the last paragraph,  I and my wife personally believe in cremation and will be cremated after death. And then there is the subject of euthanasia. Any sick animal has the advantage of being put down, why don't I if I have been diagnosed with a terminal painful condition? Really, would a loving father want me to linger and suffer immeasurably before I die? I have four children and would not want to see any of them suffer, so why would my God? But then again everyone is entitled to his/her beliefs, and that is what I am interested in, why they believe what they believe. Well, I could go on and on with my opinions, what about yours?

  • 11-18-2009 3:40 PM In reply to

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    Is that your feeling,or are you believing in Lisa Miller and Newsweek ?
  • 11-18-2009 7:54 PM In reply to

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    Haven't read newsweek in years. And who is Lisa Miller? that is , if in fact your addressing me.

     

    samwham:
    Is that your feeling,or are you believing in Lisa Miller and Newsweek ?

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