CIT filed bankruptcy today 11/1

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  • 11-01-2009 7:02 PM

    CIT filed bankruptcy today 11/1

    I dont know if this is good or bad for this market. They will stay in business I think. But who NOW is going to loan money to the business that CIT did. CIT had a nice business until the CEO just had to go and buy into the greedy and idiotic mortgage backed securities or derivatives or whatever else brought this 100 year old company. These CEO's need to go to jail.

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    CIT Group Files for Bankruptcy Protection
    GOLDMAN SACHS, CIT, LOAN, BONDS, BONDHOLDERS, BANKRUPTCY, BANKS, BANKING, ICAHN
    Reuters
    | 01 Nov 2009 | 04:34 PM ET
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    CIT Group, a century-old commercial lender, filed for bankruptcy on Sunday, as the global credit crisis left it unable to fund itself and the recession left it with too many bad loans.

    CIT's creditors have already approved its reorganization plan. Analysts have said that getting through bankruptcy is crucial for CIT if it wishes to keep its customers, which include Dunkin' Donuts franchisees and film production company Dark Castle Entertainment.

    CIT's operating subsidiaries, including CIT Bank, are not included in the bankruptcy filing, and expect to continue operating, the company said in a statement.

    “The decision to proceed with our plan of reorganization will allow CIT to continue to provide funding to our small business and middle market customers, two sectors that remain vitally important to the U.S. economy,” said Jeffrey M. Peek, Chairman and CEO. He added that the measure was aimed at a "swift emergence" from bankruptcy protection.

    CIT, which filed for bankruptcy protection in the Southern District of New York, plans to reduce its total debt by about $10 billion. The company had about $65 billion in liabilities as of mid-June and $800 million of debt is coming due next week.

    Under the bankruptcy plan approved by bondholders, creditors will end up owning the company. Most bondholders will also end up with new CIT debt worth about 70 percent of the face value of their old debt. Preferred shareholders, including the U.S. government, will get money only after other creditors are paid back. Current common shareholders will receive nothing.

     

    The U.S. government invested $2.33 billion in CIT preferred shares in December 2008 through the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

    CIT financed itself mainly by borrowing from bond markets, which has proven to be a flawed strategy as the credit crunch that began in 2007 has made it much more expensive for troubled companies to fund themselves.

    The pre-packaged bankruptcy was widely expected after billionaire investor Carl Icahn last week threw his support behind a bankruptcy filing.

    Icahn, who says he is CIT's largest bondholder, said in a statement that he changed his mind on the pre-packaged bankruptcy plan because he was pleased by changes the company made, including establishing an accelerated process for appointing new directors.

    On Friday, shares of cash-strapped CIT slumped 24 percent to 72 cents as investors took the announcement as an indication that the pre-packaged bankruptcy plan would go ahead.

    Also Friday, CIT said it had reached an agreement with Goldman Sachs Group that would reduce a $3 billion credit line to $2.125 billion but, critically, keep the line open during a bankruptcy.

  • 11-01-2009 9:09 PM In reply to

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     I would think that a company as big as CIT going BK would be bad for the market.... but, I have no doubt that next week will end up being a positive as bernanke and friends goose up the markets.

    tomorrow may or may not see a gap down, but if there is one, it's a buying opportunity

    gotta think in an evil manner when you deal with the frauds on Wall Street

  • 11-01-2009 9:45 PM In reply to

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    I really dont know what to think anymore. In the real world I am a dear in headlights as to any long term investing. These CEOs should be in jail. Is this the end of the bear market rally like 1933 or is this the final puke in this stomach flu of the economy.

    As for the economy, the job situation is worse, not better. The whole stimulus thing is a lie.

  • 11-02-2009 1:49 AM In reply to

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    I agree with you that the job situation is worse, not better.

    I am a state worker in CA; we are furloughed 3 days (aka 14.92 DECLINE in salary). And, there has been a hiring freeze.

    Once the tax revenues are in, we in CA are in for a whole new world of hurt. We keep spending, but we rake in less revenues --- and so, sooner or later, more and more employees of county and of state will be laid off, adding to unemployment woes.

  • 11-02-2009 3:00 AM In reply to

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     Im thinking the collapse of CIT because CIT was so large will cause a big decline in the markets tomorrow.  Its going to recreate fear that the economy is not getting better, mayb a dose of reality that the great recession is not nearly over yet.

  • 11-02-2009 8:41 AM In reply to

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    Fords earnings seem to be tempering the market. Futures are up. I have found it very funny that the government bailed out the banks and AIG and left CIT to die. Lobbyist ?

    I wonder how badly this will hurt small businesses. On the other hand, will this help CIT get back to business.

  • 11-02-2009 9:12 AM In reply to

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    I just can't believe this!  Unbelievable!  What in the world is going on?

  • 11-02-2009 11:24 AM In reply to

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    crazyyy. wow. didnt think they would go bankrupt so fast
  • 11-02-2009 11:57 AM In reply to

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    Montana:
    Fords earnings seem to be tempering the market. Futures are up. I have found it very funny that the government bailed out the banks and AIG and left CIT to die. Lobbyist ?
     

     

    I don't know what it means that CIT died. There could still be a bailout, right? Maybe the government is running low on bailout money :P

  • 11-02-2009 12:58 PM In reply to

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    Save your money ! The other shoe is getting ready to drop .
  • 11-02-2009 1:49 PM In reply to

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  • 11-02-2009 1:56 PM In reply to

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    There will not be any bailout for CIT. The bankruptcy will help them most likely. But the shareholders will get nothing. But the big concern now is, who is going to take the place of CIT. Sure as hell not the banks, they wont lend to small businesses. With Christmas coming up and inventory etc, who is going to cover that. That is what CIT did. But NO, CIT CEO had to go and get greedy and ruin the company. Why arent these CEOs in jail.

  • 11-02-2009 2:20 PM In reply to

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    My stop loss didn't even kick in, lost big.

  • 11-02-2009 2:20 PM In reply to

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    My stop loss didn't even kick in, lost big.

  • 11-03-2009 12:14 AM In reply to

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     well, this is certainly not change we can believe in, is it?

    after the politicians and Wall Street stole roughly $2.3B from taxpayers to give to CIT, they promptly turn around and declare BK

    think we'll get that money back?

    think the media will bring this subject up?

    the media made a big whoop about the big banks (GS, JPM, etc) paying back TARP --- lololol

  • 11-03-2009 3:41 PM In reply to

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    Will they still be giving out Xmax bonuses this year?

  • 11-03-2009 3:41 PM In reply to

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    Will they still be giving out Xmax bonuses this year?

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