Any chatist strategies out there?

Last post 07-21-2009 12:22 PM by Neryblop. 9 replies.
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  • 07-19-2009 5:16 PM

    Any chatist strategies out there?

    I am currently trying to add to my current screener but have no (and bad) experience with charts. I already know 50-day and 200-day and volume, but I have no idea how to use the other weird indicators out there. So to people who have had experience. If you ca place your ideas.

  • 07-19-2009 7:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Any chatist strategies out there?

    Oh...chartist..gotcha

  • 07-19-2009 9:12 PM In reply to

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    I also wanted to know some ideas. Can anyone share their experience on this? thanks in advance.

  • 07-19-2009 10:17 PM In reply to

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    It would be easier if I could put links in here but we cant do that. I will try and copy and paste some stuff Ive had for a while from thestreet.com

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    Technical Stock-Picking: Make Your Move With the 'MACD'

    Stockpickr Staff

    02/15/08 - 05:36 PM EST

    This technical analysis-based assignment was written by Stockpickr member Ira Krakow.

    One of the most common problems that a stock technician technical-analysis faces is that not all buy or sell signals are genuine. A signal, such as a bullish candle on a one-minute candle chart, a stock price crossing its 20-day moving average, or the price touching the upper Bollinger Band, may be only a temporary blip. The very next minute, the price might reverse sharply. Placing a buy order relying on one indicator over a short time frame -- a "false positive" -- could result in a big loss. Enter the "MACD."

    A Look at Capital One's Chart

    Technicians use the MACD (Moving Average Convergence/Divergence) either to confirm the potential buy or sell decision (a "convergence") or to detect a false positive (a "divergence").

    Here's a daily candle chart for Capital One Financial (COF Quote) (Jan. 14, 2008 to Feb. 13, 2008), with its MACD graph below the chart.

    Click here for larger image.

    The MACD statistic is based on the exponential moving average (EMA), a refinement of the moving average, which gives more weight to recent prices than older prices. This is more in keeping with the real ebb and flow of the market than a simple moving average, which treats all prices equally.

    When making a buy or sell decision based on history, you care more about what happened yesterday than two months ago, although you don't want to ignore older prices altogether.

    Check out the MACD graph (below the candlesticks) in the Capital One chart. Take note of the blue line, the red line and a solid black area. The blue line represents the difference between the stock's 26-day EMA and its 12-day EMA. If the price has been in an uptrend in the last 12 days, compared with its movement in the last 26 days, the upward move has momentum. The black area, the difference between the two EMAs, graphically shows this momentum. The black "mountain," starting grow on Jan 24, shows that the upswing in Capital One is strong.

    The MACD can also tells us when to buy. The red line, technically the 9-day EMA of the MACD, is called the "signal line" because when the blue line crosses it, a buy or sell signal is generated. On Jan. 23, the blue line crossed above the red line, creating a buy signal. On Feb. 11, the blue line crossed below the red line, creating a sell signal, with the price descending from the mountain into the valley. If you obeyed these signals, you would have ridden up Capital One from $40 to $48, for a nice 20% gain. The chart below shows the MACD with those buy and sell and points.

    Click here for larger image.

    The Mountain Top

    You could have actually done better. The black mountain between the buy and sell points shows that momentum increased until Feb. 1 and then decreased until Feb. 11. A great trade would have been to sell on Feb. 1, when the mountain was at its peak. That trade would have netted you a cool 40% gain, from $40 to $56. Here's the picture:

    In the real world, you would have probably sold a bit later, most likely, on Feb. 4, when the falling momentum of the MACD confirmed the bearish (grey) candle. Still, that would have been a great trade too. The idea is to sell as soon as the price starts to slide down the momentum mountain.

    To learn how to view the MACD on your own, check out the appendix at the end of this assignment.

    Your MACD Assignment

    Your assignment this week is to extend this MACD analysis to other stocks in the banking sector. Why banks? Since bank stocks are very volatile volatility these days, we might be able to spot opportunities for a quick profit. The task: find the best bank stock for a short term trade.

    Step 1.On Stockpickr , create a portfolio called "Bank Stock MACD Trades: [Your Stockpickr Username]". (To create a portfolio on Stockpickr, you'll need to first log-in to Stockpickr Web site. If you're currently not a Stockpickr member, you can register at www.stockpickr.com/register.)

    As a starting point, add Capital One to your MACD-based Stockpickr portfolio, as well as the following bank stocks: Citigroup (C Quote), Wachovia Bank (WB Quote), Wells Fargo (WFC Quote), Washington Mutual (WM Quote), JP Morgan Chase (JPM Quote) and Bank of America (BAC Quote).

    You can add other bank stocks to the portfolo as well.

    Step 2. For each stock, use your favorite charting software (like BigCharts.com's Interactive Chart) to plot an intraday candlestick chart, generating a candle every five minutes and graph the MACD.

    Based on the MACD, identify your potential buy and sell opportunities. Document the times and prices for your trades in the "Reason? box for each stock.

    Check back during the day to see whether other buy and sell opportunities occurred.

    Which bank stock would have been the best trade?

    Step 3. Repeat Step 2 for the next three trading days or until you feel comfortable trading real money.

    As with any other technical indicator, the MACD isn't perfect. Sometimes the MACD inches a bit above the 0 line, only to reverse quickly. So for the EMA, experiment with other settings, other than the standard 12-day and 26-day periods. For example, active traders looking for more buy and sell signals sometimes use the 8-day and 17-day period moving average.

    Combine your MACD analysis with other technical signals to confirm your market move. Appendix: How to Create the MACD Graph

    A Web site that supports the MACD indicator is BigCharts.com. At BigChart.com, to create a MACD-enhanced chart like the ones in this assignment, do the following:

    1. Enter the stock ticker. Then click the "Interactive Chart" button.

    2. This step is optional. For a candlestick chart, under "Price Display", select "Candlestick."

    3. Under "Lower Indicators," select "MACD." You can select up to three indicators to display below the chart.

    4. To store the chart settings, click "Store Current Settings."

  • 07-19-2009 10:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Any chartist strategies out there?

    Technical Stock-Picking: How to Trade Off of a Stock Chart

    Stockpickr Staff

    01/04/08 - 05:33 PM EST

    This technical analysis-based assignment was written by Stockpickr member Ira Krakow.

    Instead of trying to outsmart the large institutional "elephants," why not join them?

    If the big hedge funds hedge-fund, mutual funds mutual-fund, institutional investors institutional-investor and players such as Warren Buffett, Carl Icahn and George Soros (who have billions of dollars to invest, huge research budgets) are buying and selling a stock, then that activity will be reflected in the stock chart -- the graph of the stock's historical price over time.

    If a stock's chart is showing that an institutional feeding frenzy is taking place, we might want to join the feast. So instead of buying and holding, we can enjoy the ride up until the chart tells us that the party is over, at which point we would sell.

    The key to tracking the elephants: Understanding how to read a chart. A stock chart has three components: price, volume and time frame. Let's look at each of them.

    Price. Price is the obvious starting point. Stock prices essentially follow the law of supply and demand. When more investors want to buy than sell, the price rises. When the opposite is true -- there are more sellers than buyers -- the price falls.

    Volume. The real key to chart reading is a stock's volume volume. Typically, only a fraction of a company's stock trades on any given day. Breaking news, such as an earnings surprise earnings-surprise, a new product announcement or a pending merger merger, usually causes the volume to spike, indicating increased investor interest. (The news itself can be either positive or negative.)

    Here's a one-year (2007) chart of Google (GOOG Quote), showing both price and volume fluctuations:

    Google
    1-Year Chart
    Click here for larger image.
    Source: Yahoo! Finance

    Notice that the daily volume trended in a range of 5 million to 6 million shares (for a recent range, check out the box labeled "Avg Vol (3m)" on Yahoo! Finance's GOOG quote page), but that significant spikes did occur during the year -- at one point, increasing to almost 18 million shares.

    Spikes are typically due to breaking news. For example, Google's daily volume increased to nearly 16.5 million shares in early November, thanks in large part to the Alibaba.com IPO initial-public-offering-ipo in Hong Kong. Why? Google competitor Yahoo! (YHOO Quote) is a big investor in Alibaba.com, and that caused some Google investors to sell, causing a drop of over 100 points, from around $741 to $626, in mid-November. Volume confirms the price movement.

    Savvy technical investors, seeing a move down on strong volume, would have probably sold before the big down move. A price move on light volume, on the other hand, is usually interpreted as a "lack of conviction," which means that the trend might not continue.

    Time frame. When reading stock charts, time frame is also important. A chart can be drawn for a period as long 10 years or more, or as short as a few hours in the trading day -- the so-called intraday chart. The longer the trend endures, especially if confirmed by heavy volume, the more likely it is to be sustained in the future. Google's move from the mid-$400s to over $740 over the year was certainly impressive. Has its momentum momentum-investing run out of steam? To find out, look at a chart over a shorter time period. Here's a recent one-month bar chart of Google:

    Google
    1-Month Chart
    Click here for larger image.
    Source: BigCharts

    The one-month bar chart (the height of the bar is the difference between the highest and lowest price of the day, the left tick indicates the open price opening, and the right tick indicates the closing price closing-price) seems to confirm the upward momentum of the one-year chart. Google's price moved about from around $630 to $730, during the month, with strong buying volume on the price dips. So look at a chart over different time frames. A great indicator of strength is if the stock keeps making higher highs no matter what time frame you choose.

    Even fundamental fundamental-analysis-based investors should look at a stock's chart, because the chart will show when buying opportunities present themselves. In Google's case, the stock seems to bounce back consistently from these temporary lows.

    Some daytraders day-trader use the intraday chart to trade in and out of a stock. For example, here's an intraday candlestick chart of Google for Dec. 18, 2007:

    Google
    1-Day Chart
    Click here for larger image.
    Source: Yahoo! Finance

    According to Japanese tradition, candlestick charts were invented by the 18th century Japanese rice trader Homma Munehisa, who allegedly could execute 100 out of 100 profitable trades. Each candle in this chart represents five minutes of trading during the day. The height of the rectangle within the candle is the difference between the opening price opening and the closing price closing-price during each five minutes.

    If the opening price is lower than the closing price, the rectangle is not filled in, signifying a trend to a higher price. If the opening price is higher than the closing price, the rectangle is filled in, signifying a trend to a lower price. The line beyond the rectangle, either above or below the rectangle, extends to the highest and lowest price in the five-minute period.

    On the morning of Dec. 18, 2007, Google sold off about 20 points, from $675 to $655 between the trading day's opening (9:30 a.m. Eastern standard time) to about 10:45 a.m., possibly on short short-interest-covering. Buyers came in until a little after 11 a.m., pushing the stock above $660.

    The stock traded without a clear trend until about 1:15 p.m., at which point the buyers came in again, pushing the stock up again. At the end of the trading day, Google stock recovered all its losses to close near its opening price. A careful reading of the chart would have provided daytraders with profit opportunities on quick moves.

    Your Chart-Reading Assignment

    Every week on TheStreet.com and Stockpickr, James Altucher picks his "rocket stocks" for the week -- those stocks he thinks will increase the most in price -- and one of the most important tools in Altucher's stock-picking toolbox is chart-reading.

    To learn more about chart-reading, check out RealMoney's Dan Fitzpatrick's Web video segment on TheStreet.com TV, 3 Stocks I Saw On TV.

    So here is your technical stock-picking assignment: Find the next rocket stocks on the basis of chart-reading -- these are stocks you think will increase the most in price this week, on a technical basis.

    Step 1. On Stockpickr, create a portfolio called "Rocket Stocks Research: [Your Stockpickr Username]." (To create a portfolio on Stockpickr, you'll need to first log in. If you're currently not a Stockpickr member, you can register at www.stockpickr.com/register.)

    Step 2. Research the Stockpickr portfolio database to find five companies that you think will increase the most in price this week, on a technical basis. Don't do any fundamental fundamental-analysis research, just focus on the chart as well as the immediate cause of the price rise. Analyze the stock's price and volume changes over different time periods, including one year, six months, one month and one day.

    In addition to Altucher's rocket stocks for the week, look at the following portfolios:

    • Stocks Rising on Unusual Volume: This portfolio captures the philosophy behind technical trading. Look at the stock charts over various time periods to see whether this is just a temporary rise or whether it has occurred in the past. Check out news about the stock to find the immediate cause of the rise.

       

    • 52 Week Highs: Certainly achieving a new high is a reason to look further. However, if the high is on relatively weak volume, you may be looking at a "bear bear-market trap," in which case the price will drop.

       

    • Stocks With Unusual Options Activity: If investors are buying a lot of call options call-option, this could signal an imminent price spike upwards. Confirm by looking at the chart.

       

    • Unusual Volume System: This is one of Altucher's System Trades of the Day, based on monitoring stocks that have risen on larger than usual volume.

    Find stocks that you think will rocket. Document your reasoning in the "Reason?" box. Enter the stock high, low, close and volume for that day as well.

    Step 3. After the close of the next trading day, enter the high, low, close and volume in the "Reason?" box. Is the high price on high volume trend continuing, or is it time to sell?

    Step 4. Repeat Step 3 for the next four trading days, developing a weekly history of the stock's price and volume performance.

    Step 5. At the end of the week, compare your results with Altucher's rocket stock portfolio for that week (example: "Rocket Stocks for the Week of Dec. 31"). Did your picks match any of his, or did you find better ones?

    A company's can have great fundamentals and have a lousy chart. The reverse is also possible -- a company on the verge of bankruptcy bankruptcy with a chart that indicates short term profit potential. Ideally, the fundamentals and technical characteristics of a stock reinforce each other. They're both important weapons in your fight for stock market profits.

  • 07-19-2009 10:21 PM In reply to

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    MSNMoney has a whole series of technical trading videos and articles as well. Under investing > stock investing

  • 07-20-2009 12:35 PM In reply to

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    Allright thanks guys for that information. But what is the bollinger band and what is the strategy for it.

  • 07-21-2009 8:20 AM In reply to

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    Go to TheStreet.com and click on Video and do a search for Bollinger bands. Or google it, there is a lot out there on the Bollinger bands.

  • 07-21-2009 8:37 AM In reply to

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    Try these articles

     

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/identify-trend-reversals

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/node/400

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/Trade-Opportunities-Bollinger-Bands

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/reverse-divergence

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/Parabolic-Stop-Reversal

    http://education.wallstreetsurvivor.com/sister-stocks

  • 07-21-2009 12:22 PM In reply to

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    LOL!. Youtube is amazing. Thanks a lot guys.

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