Home Prices

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  • 06-24-2008 8:22 AM

    Home Prices

    On Tuesday, two indexes measuring the change in home prices in April are likely to show declines, as a glut of unsold homes continues to pressure the struggling market.

    The March Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller 20-city index showed home prices tumbling 14.4 percent in the month to the lowest level since the index was started in 2001.

    The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight index, which monitors changes in prices for prime mortgages that conform to the limits set by the government-backed mortgage companies, showed prices fell 0.4 percent in March. The OFHEO index includes only mortgages of $417,000 or less that are bought or backed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

    The S&P index is broader but less regionally diverse than the OFHEO index.

  • 06-25-2008 12:49 AM In reply to

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    Thanks for the info.

  • 07-08-2008 9:22 AM In reply to

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    Any update?

  • 07-08-2008 10:30 PM In reply to

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    Thanks for the info.

  • 07-10-2008 9:54 PM In reply to

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    Hi Karand,

    That's useful information.

    I recently joined this forum and I would like to network with people like you.

    As newbie, I would like to know if you have found the information on this forum useful? 

    Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

     

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  • 07-11-2008 10:04 AM In reply to

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    Freddie & Fannie shares plummet premarket

    AP
    Posted: 2008-07-11 08:49:10
    NEW YORK (AP) - Shares of Freddie Mac  and Fannie Mae  lost about half their value in premarket trading Friday as Wall Street became more convinced that the government may need to bail out the nation's key mortgage financiers.

    The New York Times  reported Friday the government was considering some form of takeover, adding to fears that have mounted all week long about the companies. Representatives of neither Fannie nor Freddie were immediately available for comment.

    "We should not be in a position that only two government-sponsored lenders are willing to make mortgage loans and, without them, our economy would collapse," Piper Jaffray analyst Robert P. Napoli said in a note to clients.

    Napoli lowered his target on Freddie to $9 from $28 and on Fannie to $15 from $30.

    He kept "Neutral" ratings on both companies, citing credit concerns.

    There does not appear to be a change in fundamentals at either company, he said, just a change in sentiment.

    Thursday night the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight said both Fannie and Freddie remain "adequately capitalized" and "have large liquidity portfolios, access to the debt market and over $1.5 trillion in unpledged assets."

    Yet Napoli said, "We doubt anyone will listen as fear is so high."

    He estimated that Freddie will likely have $2 billion in excess capital by the end of 2008 and Fannie will have $6 billion by the end of 2009.

    Congress created Fannie in 1938 and Freddie in 1970 to keep money flowing into the home-loan market by buying up mortgages and bundling them into securities for sale to investors worldwide - thereby making home ownership affordable for low- and middle-income Americans.

    Today the companies hold or guarantee around $5.3 trillion in home-loan debt, though under a 1992 law they are required to hold only a fraction of what is mandated for commercial banks as a financial cushion against risk.

    Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co. analyst Andrew Parmentier said the question of a capital raise at either company remains a "moving target."

    "In an instance where equity capital is not raised and investors see a meaningful change in debt spreads, it is clear to us that government action would be undertaken to ensure that the institutions would not fail," Parmentier said in a note to clients.

    So far this year, shares of Freddie are down 77 percent, and shares of Fannie are down 67 percent.
  • 07-11-2008 4:19 PM In reply to

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    WAS VERY TEMPTED TO BUY SOME OF BOTH AWHILE BACK AND FORGOT TO OR CHICKENED OUT OF GOING SHORT,BECAUSE OF THE NEWS,HARD TO SAY WHICH WAY TO GO WITH THIS MARKET RIGHT NOW !

  • 07-11-2008 7:32 PM In reply to

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     So true when evrything is pointed in the red position. I am looking for a break though. If you have enough symbols in your watch list maybe one or two like mine will come up green. I do depend on my list and it hasn't failed me yet. Toni Everyone is losing everything right about noew even the shirts off of their backs. If I was President I would give a million to some of these big time oil holders here in America and say give up the oil. Forcing gas prices bk. down and us America to hold on to some integrity. They say we need to make more effiecient cars and we are about the only ones not following suit. I say yes, we have to follow the others to keep up otherwise America is just going to be America and not the home of the free. As much of our privelges have been taken so far we cannot hardly stand anything else. The way the market is is a way America will be if everyone dosen't start buying more effiecient cars, appliances and fixing our Ozone.

  • 07-11-2008 7:34 PM In reply to

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     We will not have a place to call home if this keepsup. I still blame it all on the President. When do we vote again? Bring it on I am so ready. Anybody would do better anybody would. If they were looking out for us as a country.

  • 07-12-2008 10:10 AM In reply to

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    Government shuts down mortgage lender IndyMac

    By ALEX VEIGA,
    AP
    Posted: 2008-07-11 22:31:11
    LOS ANGELES (AP) - IndyMac Bank's assets were seized by federal regulators on Friday after the mortgage lender succumbed to the pressures of tighter credit, tumbling home prices and rising foreclosures.

    The bank is the largest regulated thrift to fail and the second largest financial institution to close in U.S. history, regulators said.

    The Office of Thrift Supervision said it transferred IndyMac's operations to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation because it did not think the lender could meet its depositors' demands.

    IndyMac customers with funds in the bank were limited to taking out money via automated teller machines over the weekend, debit card transactions or checks, regulators said.

    Other bank services, such as online banking and phone banking were scheduled to be made available on Monday.

    "This institution failed today due to a liquidity crisis," OTS Director John Reich said.

    The lender's failure came the same day that financial markets plunged when investors tried to gauge whether the government would have to save mortgage giants Fannie Mae  and Freddie Mac .

    Shares of Fannie and Freddie dropped to 17-year lows before the stocks recovered somewhat. Wall Street is growing more convinced that the government will have to bail out the country's biggest mortgage financiers, whose failure could deal a tremendous blow to the already staggering economy.

    The FDIC estimated that its takeover of IndyMac would cost between $4 billion and $8 billion.

    IndyMac's collapse is second only to that of Continental Illinois National Bank, which had nearly $40 billion in assets when it failed in 1984, according to the FDIC.

    News of the takeover distressed Alan Sands, who showed up at the company's headquarters in Pasadena, Calif., to find out when he could withdraw his funds.

    "Hopefully the FDIC insurance will take care of it," said Sands, of El Monte, Calif. "I'm also kind of kicking myself for not taking care of this sooner, sooner as in the last couple of days."

    A couple of dozen customers could be seen outside the building, reading fliers handed out by FDIC staff. The agency set up a toll-free number for bank customers to call.

    IndyMac Bancorp Inc., the holding company for IndyMac Bank, has been struggling to raise capital as the housing slump deepens.

    IndyMac had $32.01 billion in assets as of March 31.

    A spokesman for the lender referred media queries to the FDIC.

    The banking regulator said it closed IndyMac after customers began a run on the lender following the June 26 release of a letter by Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., urging several bank regulatory agencies that they take steps to prevent IndyMac's collapse.

    In the 11 days that followed the letter's release, depositors took out more than $1.3 billion, regulators said.

    In a statement Friday, Schumer said IndyMac's failure was due to long-standing practices by the bank, not recent events.

    "If OTS had done its job as regulator and not let IndyMac's poor and loose lending practices continue, we wouldn't be where we are today," Schumer said. "Instead of pointing false fingers of blame, OTS should start doing its job to prevent future IndyMacs."

    The FDIC planned to reopen the bank on Monday as IndyMac Federal Bank, FSB.

    Deposits are insured up to $100,000 per depositor.

    As of March 31, IndyMac had total deposits of $19.06 billion.

    Some 10,000 depositors had funds in excess of the insured limit, for a total of $1 billion in potentially uninsured funds, the FDIC said.

    Customers with uninsured deposits could begin making appointments to file a claim with the FDIC on Monday. The agency said it would pay unsecured depositors an advance dividend equal to half of the uninsured amount.

    During a conference call with reporters, FDIC Chairman Sheila C. Bair said the agency would cover all insured deposits and then try to recover its costs by selling IndyMac's assets.

    "We anticipate trying to market the institution as a whole bank," Bair said. "How much money we derive from that will depend on who gets paid what."

    Holders of unsecured IndyMac debt may not fully recover their investment, Bair said.

    "Generally if a creditor is secured, they are at the top of the claims priority," she said. "If they are unsecured, they're pretty low on the claims priority and probably will take some type of haircut with this, but we have not had a chance to do a thorough analysis to know ... how extensive those losses will be."

    IndyMac spent the last two weeks trying to reassure customers that it was not near default.

    On Monday, IndyMac announced it had stopped accepting new loan submissions and planned to slash 3,800 jobs, or more than half of its work force - the largest employee cuts in company history.

    In the letter to shareholders, IndyMac Chairman and Chief Executive Michael W. Perry said the drastic measures were made in conjunction with banking regulators to improve the company's financial footing and "meet our mutual goal of keeping Indymac safe and sound through this crisis period."

    The plan was supposed to generate roughly $5 billion to $10 billion per year of new loans backed by government-sponsored mortgage companies, Perry said at the time.

    But the run on its deposits ultimately short-circuited the strategy, prompting regulators to take action Friday.

    Associated Press writer Raquel Maria Dillon in Pasadena contributed to this report.

    On the Net:

    FDIC IndyMac page: http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/IndyMac.html

    Toll-Free Customer line: 1-866-806-5919.
  • 07-15-2008 1:34 AM In reply to

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     Like I said in previous post, gambling on your home is the biggest mistake anyone can ever make. Home prices aren't falling, they are coming back to there real value, the real estate and mortgage industry was artifically inflating the prices to make a buck and they new that this was going to happen. Common sense was surly lacking on the part of the consumer. 

     

  • 07-22-2008 12:51 AM In reply to

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    I agree- they aren't falling they are returning to a more normal state after crazy inflation the past couple years. Great for us since we are buying right now, but on the flip side not good for us selling. But it all evens out right.

  • 07-22-2008 5:57 PM In reply to

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    Good point.  If you are selling a house and then buying another in the same region of the country...it all comes out in the wash.  Bad news is that you get less for the house you are selling.  Good news is that you pay much less for the one you are buying.

     

    David

    hotmamacort:

    I agree- they aren't falling they are returning to a more normal state after crazy inflation the past couple years. Great for us since we are buying right now, but on the flip side not good for us selling. But it all evens out right.

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