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Last post 08-17-2008 12:13 PM by wallstreet121. 5 replies.
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  • 08-17-2008 12:52 AM

    Incomplete Story...

    For S. Ossetians, Bitterness After Attacks

    Residents of Separatist Zone Describe Georgian Assault That Destroyed a Swath of Their Capital  Washington Post Foreign Service
    Sunday, August 17, 2008;

    Here in Tskhinvali, there was no doubt that Georgia started the war with Russia and much bitterness about the rain of artillery and rockets that the government of President Mikheil Saakashvili used in its efforts to capture the city. The Georgian government said much of the destruction of Tskhinvali was caused by a Russian counteroffensive, but that argument carries no weight with residents here, some of them clearly traumatized. People insist that a terrible barrage struck the city late Aug. 7 and continued into the morning -- accounts supported by Western monitors who were also forced into their cellars

    "Three days we were here, without water, without bread," said Zemsira Tiblova, 60. "We had 14 children with us."

    "Unforgivable," said her husband, Georgi Bestaev. "It was inhuman to bomb us."

    The scale of the destruction is undeniable;

    But the number of dead remains in dispute. Mikhail Minsayev, the minister of interior in the separatist South Ossetian government, told reporters Saturday that as many as 2,100 people had been killed. When challenged on that figure by reporters, who cited statements by medical workers and human rights groups that there was no evidence of such a high death toll, he said people quickly buried the dead in their yards or took the bodies to North Ossetia in Russia for burial.

    Russian military officials blamed the destruction on marauding South Ossetian militias and said they are attempting to restore order.

    The headquarters of Russian peacekeepers in Tskhinvali was destroyed. The barracks where 500 soldiers slept took direct hits from tank fire. A destroyed Russian tank sits by the barracks wall. The base's headquarters, dining hall and recreation center are ruined. Vladimir Ivanov, deputy commander of the Russian peacekeeping force that was stationed here, said that 15 Russian peacekeepers were killed during the war and that many more were wounded.

    Russian peacekeepers have been in South Ossetia since the early 1990s, when a cease-fire was declared after an earlier conflict. This breakaway province of Georgia has since had de facto independence from the central authorities in Tbilisi, the Georgian capital.

    The war has poisoned people here against any future connection with Georgia although the province remains within Georgia's internationally recognized borders. "Georgia is finished here; they are never coming back," Bestaev said. "We cannot live without Russia. We must become part of Russia, because we can't handle the problem independently

    I csn't believe that the stories in  the major media are still not presenting this story as it should be told.

    Carpe Diem.!!

  • 08-17-2008 1:07 AM In reply to

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    CANT DISAGREE, GEORGIA DID START THE PROBLEM AND BOY DID THEY PAY FOR IT. HOPEFULLY THEY LEARNED THEIR LESSON AND REBUILD STRONGER AND MORE KEEN TO THEIR ABILITIES AS COUNTRY. US CANT AFFORD TO FIGHT FOR THEIR MISHAPS. BUT THE US SHOULD DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP NEW DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES WITH ECONOMIC AND MILITARY STRUGGLES. EVEN THOUGH WE TEND TO FEED AND HELP THE DECISIVE BEAR. WITH TECHNOLOGY AND WEAPON AS DESTRUCTIVE AS THEY ARE, I KNOW REALIZE HOW IMPORTANT A GLOBAL ECONOMY AND ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IS (NEW WORLD ORDER). IF WE CAN DEFEAT AND BECOME ONE WITH THE KREMLIN AND ONE WITH ROUGE COUNTRIES SUCH AS PARTS OF AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST (IRAN, SYRIA,JORDAN, AND VENEZUELA AS WELL AS CHINA) THE CHANCES OF A NUCLEUR ATTACK WOULD BE LIMITED. MY THEORY COULD BE WRONG. BUT CURRENTLY IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

  • 08-17-2008 5:09 AM In reply to

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    I'm not sure I know were your coming from  Morelli.  I'm really not that keen on a one-world Government.  A world where economies work together in the best interest of the planet as a whole sounds much better. But there's no need to throw away the flags of the world. And I'm not clear on what you mean by... Morelli wrote: "IF WE CAN DEFEAT AND BECOME ONE WITH THE KREMLIN AND ONE WITH ROUGE COUNTRIES SUCH AS PARTS OF AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST (IRAN, SYRIA,JORDAN, AND VENEZUELA AS WELL AS CHINA) THE CHANCES OF A NUCLEUR ATTACK WOULD BE LIMITED."

    I take it your not talking about a military conflict between the U.S. and Russia. So, I don't quite understand how we defeat the Kremlin? as you put it.

     

     

  • 08-17-2008 7:31 AM In reply to

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    Nearly 30 years ago, Russia invaded a little known country called Afghanistan. It didnt work out to well for them. If you want to know how to defeat the Kremlin, watch Charlie Wilson's War.

  • 08-17-2008 11:12 AM In reply to

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    can we trade on this?

  • 08-17-2008 12:13 PM In reply to

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    I dont even like the idea of a one world government no way no how, I see where you are coming from morelli about it would be almost impossible for any kind of nuclear attack, but a one world government will never happen, and if it did it wouldnt last long, the whole one world government is to communist

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