BO and most of the liberals in this country, and world, want (run on) asset redistribution. (for ex: tax us to reduce world poverty)

I wish I was one of those that have built up (envious/hated) fortunes that would qualify for extra taxation to distribute to the less fortunate. Unfortunately I am not.

But if I was a multi-millionaire/billionaire, would I just sit here and accept letting this govt. take my earned assets away? (even after all my tax breaks) Even after after my very generous charitable contributions (like B. Gates). If it really came down to it, and you were in such a position (in this day and age) would you give up your assets to the govt. or relocate. I mean, these wealthy people do have enough to even move loved ones as well as themselves. Are there any places, like Dubai, that could support your lifestyle with todays communications/electronics if you were wealthy? Could you run your company from a tax friendly country? Countries with a lower cost of living, but with the same or more ammenities? Would you really have to give your assets to those less fortunate in this country? No you would not. A personal decision, I know. but a decision non the less. 

This is not funny or a joke! This countries fundamentals (financial and otherwise) are under serious attack. Look around you at what the govt. (your taxes) is trying to bail us out from. Financial fraud, today, and multiple times before. Are more coming? YES!

Who walks to their cars, dorms, homes in fear? The workers, students or homeowners! Citizens! Hard working, innocent citizens? Or is it the criminals who are more emboldened, fearless (for many reasons) than ever. Are they afraid, or are they empowered to terrorize? Who has more rights?

Tax paying citizens are suffering, but we provide billions (Trillions soon) to ILLEGAL aliens, and indigents.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!  Do we have to become a third world country before we realize what the future holds if we continue this failed (socialism history) idealogy.  Failed "idealistic" policies!  If you open your eyes, I mean, really look at the real world around you  (and I know it is hard to accept our/my/your responsibility on how far we have let ourselves fall) you CAN see the tough situation we have dug (for ex: cities and countries monetary deficits (bankruptcies)...one example of many) for ourselves.

We can do better, but not with the designed, me vs. you, lib. vs conserv., Dem vs. Rep, and what can you do for ME diversions we have been given to distract us from what is being handed, and taken away, from us.

The only solution is for citizen unity for betterment of the country. Ignore the distractions of the MMedia, politicans, govt., and other high placed,illogical (based on today's world) voices.

Do you remember how this country (we) got free?????  The point should not be lost. If it is, so are we!

 are you suggesting armed revolution?

 are you suggesting armed revolution?

 Oh boy, here goes the double posts again       *sigh*

the duplicate was not for dramatic emphasis. 

 Oh boy, here goes the double posts again       *sigh*

the duplicate was not for dramatic emphasis. 

I'm suggesting ............ "The only solution is for citizen unity for betterment of the country. Ignore the distractions of the MMedia, politicans, govt., and other high placed,illogical (based on today's world) voices."

Simple (?) as that!

Once again a splendid explanation on the policies we continue to face from politicians that want to repeat the same failed solutions from the past. The majority of them are liberals that think taxing people to death will solve everything. In some cases taxing them after they are dead, it's criminal plain and simple. 

Nice article Surveybob. Though you sound a little too paranoid. I could spend sometime talking about the Failed Idealistic Policies of the past eight years. But, its getting late and I suspect it would take quite a long post to address all your concerns. So, I give you this. its only 1:55sec long, and I believe it represents the way a lot of us here at WSS forums feel.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfll2ICon0  And take it easy, or something!

Carpe Diem..!!

surveybob:

BO and most of the liberals in this country, and world, want (run on) asset redistribution. (for ex: tax us to reduce world poverty)

I wish I was one of those that have built up (envious/hated) fortunes that would qualify for extra taxation to distribute to the less fortunate. Unfortunately I am not. You, me, and about 90% of the rest of the tax payers.

But if I was a multi-millionaire/billionaire, would I just sit here and accept letting this govt. take my earned assets away? (even after all my tax breaks) Even after after my very generous charitable contributions (like B. Gates). The like of Gates et-al don’t care abou what they pay in taxes … it is insignificant.   If it really came down to it, and you were in such a position (in this day and age) would you give up your assets to the govt. or relocate. Obviously, it is not necessary.  I mean, these wealthy people do have enough to even move loved ones as well as themselves. Are there any places, like Dubai, that could support your lifestyle with todays communications/electronics if you were wealthy? The long term benefits of staying in the USA cover the costs.  Could you run your company from a tax friendly country? Countries with a lower cost of living, but with the same or more ammenities? Would you really have to give your assets to those less fortunate in this country? No you would not. A personal decision, I know. but a decision non the less. Multi-Billionaires are beyond our comprehension, and taxes now will insure continued wealth forever.

This is not funny or a joke! This countries fundamentals (financial and otherwise) are under serious attack. Look around you at what the govt. (your taxes) is trying to bail us out from. Financial fraud, today, and multiple times before. Are more coming? YES!

Who walks to their cars, dorms, homes in fear? The workers, students or homeowners! Citizens! Hard working, innocent citizens? Or is it the criminals who are more emboldened, fearless (for many reasons) than ever. Are they afraid, or are they empowered to terrorize? Who has more rights?  Billionaires don’t have to worry about these problems.

Tax paying citizens are suffering, but we provide billions (Trillions soon) to ILLEGAL aliens, and indigents.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!  Do we have to become a third world country before we realize what the future holds if we continue this failed (socialism history) idealogy.  Failed "idealistic" policies!  If you open your eyes, I mean, really look at the real world around you  (and I know it is hard to accept our/my/your responsibility on how far we have let ourselves fall) you CAN see the tough situation we have dug (for ex: cities and countries monetary deficits (bankruptcies)...one example of many) for ourselves.  No, heads buried in the sand or up their a$$.

We can do better, but not with the designed, me vs. you, lib. vs conserv., Dem vs. Rep, and what can you do for ME diversions we have been given to distract us from what is being handed, and taken away, from us.

The only solution is for citizen unity for betterment of the country. Ignore the distractions of the MMedia, politicans, govt., and other high placed,illogical (based on today's world) voices.

Do you remember how this country (we) got free?????  The point should not be lost. If it is, so are we!  Too late Bob. 

surveybob:

I'm suggesting ............ "The only solution is for citizen unity for betterment of the country. Ignore the distractions of the MMedia, politicans, govt., and other high placed,illogical (based on today's world) voices."

Simple (?) as that!

Yeah, it seems simple enough. Problem is, we've all become enchanted with the ways things are. I don't suspect that the citizenry (majority)  will ever snap out of the complacent fog that we have been subjected to over the past , oh I don't know, 50 years or so. I don't suggest an armed uprising, as I'm sure you don't either.  I'm just saying that it would require something sort of a miracle to change the American mindset. I'd like to allude to an earlier post of mine which called for fairy-dust bombings across major U.S. cities to take care of our housing woes. The application here would call for citizens with pilots licenses using their own aircraft to conduct the bombing raids. If it could work on the housing crisis, I'm confident that it would work on de-socializing our government.

Just saw this. LOL.....wise-picks

wise-picks:

 are you suggesting armed revolution?

Its not a socialized government that we live in. We are letting the market places infitrate every molocule on the planet.(And i'm not talking chips here.)  Whatever kind of civilian government you think we have now. It will be a lot worse when instead of the FED or the Administration bailing us out, all we will have left are a few world dominate corporations.

I love the free market system. And, I'd like to keep it that way. But, today what we're faced with are "Old Industrial Sectors" refusing to adapt. And a total disregard to the math of "finite" resources.

For instance short selling has been used by the big boys to drive  start-up competitors with a better mouse-trap out of business. And, what they can't drive out of business they buy-up and dismantle (sometimes.) There is this old adage that goes, "Capitalism left to its own devices tends to eat its young."  The predatory behavior of more than a few CEO's gone bad, blinded by these fixed ideas, conservatives now threaten many of the things that most Americans hold dear.

enugh for now.

Carpe Diem.!!

wise-picks:

surveybob:

I'm suggesting ............ "The only solution is for citizen unity for betterment of the country. Ignore the distractions of the MMedia, politicans, govt., and other high placed,illogical (based on today's world) voices."

Simple (?) as that!

 

Yeah, it seems simple enough. Problem is, we've all become enchanted with the ways things are. I don't suspect that the citizenry (majority)  will ever snap out of the complacent fog that we have been subjected to over the past , oh I don't know, 50 years or so. I don't suggest an armed uprising, as I'm sure you don't either.  I'm just saying that it would require something sort of a miracle to change the American mindset. I'd like to allude to an earlier post of mine which called for fairy-dust bombings across major U.S. cities to take care of our housing woes. The application here would call for citizens with pilots licenses using their own aircraft to conduct the bombing raids. If it could work on the housing crisis, I'm confident that it would work on de-socializing our government.

for the first time ever, i completely agree with magoo. bob, this article is outrageous, paranoid, and unfounded. do you actually think the billionaires will leave the united states to live in dubai permanently? these people will buy a mansion in dubai and vacation there because, if you've ever been there you'd know, its a ---king circus there. they have a massive immigrant population that is horribly underpaid (few bucks a day) and a high crime rate as a result. wake up. the united states is one of the safest countries in the world. not to mention, anyone accustomed to living here would not prefer to live somewhere else. probably the only other place in the world that i'd rather live would be switzerland. because there they have socialized healthcare, excellent schools, very low crime, lots of beer, and its beautiful. they have some of the highest tax rates in the world, but everyone in their society benefits so people dont mind paying them. wake up and realize that you have to spend money to get money. high taxes are not the end of the world, how about instead of buying that 40,000 BMW, you buy that 22,000 Chevy and help the country and yourself out. afterall that 18,000 difference is probably 5 times the amount more you'll actually be paying in taxes.

Surveybob....wow! 

Jewda and Magoo....I totally back me brothas up on this one.

I hope you didn't write this.  I hope you copied and pasted this and by some way, you believe this article.  This is completley insane and way too extreme.  Yes, something needs to happen to our healthcare system and something needs to be done about the illegals.  We need to unite as one, but you know what, it won't happen.  People will still be people and never rise up and do what is necessary for the good of everyone else.  They will still be selfish. 

I find it very UNLIKELY that the rich will drive out of this country.  No one is going to leave.  No, I'm not scared or afraid when I walk to my car or to my house.  Have you ever been outside the country BOB?  Have you?  Well if you have, maybe you would not be saying all this because you would have realized how lucky we are to live in such a great place.  Its people who have lived here all their life and start taking the luxuries of this country for granted.  I am awake, I know whats going on.  I see whats going on and yes it is a tough situation.  But why do we have to become a third world country again?  That confuses me.  I don't understand why you want this country to go down the sh#! hole.  

surveybob:

BO and most of the liberals in this country, and world, want (run on) asset redistribution. (for ex: tax us to reduce world poverty)

 Oh by the way, I don't understand you calling out "liberals".  Did you not just say that we need to get past the "designed, me vs you, lib vs conser., Dem vs Rep????  Did you not realize that you wrote that??  Kinda contradictory to what you said perhaps? Hmm?

I do how we got free and I'm not going to let paranoid people try to pull down the rest of this country into their madness. 

I guess some points were not clear enough.

If you think, as you say, we are not living in a socialized govt. and country, your eyes cannot see where we are and where we are heading. We pay almost 50% of our income in taxes/fees now. And, as you can see, if you will actually look, much more is needed (fed. deficit, FredieMac, FreddieMay, SS, Medicare/caid, how many more banks and brokerages) 

My point on the rich, if socialism wins out, is that they will put their money (and maybe themselves) in a safe harbor and not allow the govt to take it for redistribution (like a Swiss bank accnt. or Switzerland). It is very easy these days to establish your home in a tax favored state/country. Many politicans do this. (ie: make FL's no property tax state their home)

Yes, we have to deal with the inscrupulous people/Capitalists. And make the peanalties for the guilty prohibative.

Jewdakris...read the post first. Not necessarily Dubai, but somewhere, maybe switzerland. Doesn't matter.

Jewdakris says .. "High taxes are not the end of the world" and while true, they are the foothold of socialism.

Funk, yes I wrote it. Not happy about it, but that is what is out there. I'm ashamed I even have to consider such things in this country. (after all the hard work and lives that were given to us for our freedom)

Funk, I'm glad you feel safe . And all our kids in locked down schools are safe too!

Funk, yes I lived in Thailand for 2 years. Very poor people, workers were clamoring for jobs that paid them 15 cents a day. A country of have and have nots.

Funk, I don't want the country to go down to 3rd world status, I want us (selfish, as you agreed) citizens to open their eyes, join together and stop the ugly trend I posted.

Funk, I'm not going "me vs. you" naming liberal's as those pushing us toward socialism. That is just the name of those pushing the socialist (take money from you and give to me) position. It is not a conservative position.